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45-lxx Government Loads | 45-70 Applications

by M. Fifty. McPherson, Tue, September xv, 2015

Synopsis: Anyone who has worked with the 45-70 Authorities with loads using blackpowder, smokeless to match blackpowder performance, or smokeless loads at higher pressure level, soon learns that this cartridge offers phenomenal functioning. Indeed, it will forever remain unsurpassed as an overall short-range hunting circular and long-range depression-velocity target round. The list of other useful characteristics is long. In the post-obit discussion, I will gloss over a few critical details and I will generalize, but the pertinent facts hold true.

45-lxx Government Background Development

Very few things develop in the vacuum; the 45-70 Authorities cartridge was no exception. The folks in the ordnance section of the US Cavalry were well aware of the best military machine cartridge developments worldwide and they were keenly enlightened of previous developments of Whitworth, in England. Whitworth took the cage-loading caplock rifle to a state of perfection that few modern shooters would believe possible.

45-70 Government Rifle
This picture show of the bones Whitworth rifle shows that it is similar to the Hawken and other period muzzle-loading caplock rifles in general layout. What Whitworth did was to perfect rifling and bullet designs and come up with a feasible method of attaching a telescopic sight that would allow convenient long-range shooting (he attached the telescopic to the left side of the gun, which eliminated the cheek weld problem and solved other problems).

Rather than chronicle that gun and the bullets Whitworth developed for information technology, I will merely note that Confederate marksmen using Whitworth rifles and rather rough telescopic sights came very close to turning the tide of that war. They took dozens of Matrimony officers out of action with shots at distances approaching one mile. If the southward had been able to beget more of Whitworth's sniper rifles, and had information technology been able to become those guns through the blockades, there is no telling what might take happened.

Those Whitworth rifles were 45-quotient, fired a 500-grain round olfactory organ bullet from a barrel with a 20-inch twist, and used a carefully measured accuse of 70 grains of the best blackpowder and then available (Curtis and Harvey, Black Diamond). Likely for those reasons, when the Usa armed services realized the limitations of the 50-70 Government chambering, information technology simply adopted a chambering and cartridge that essentially duplicated the load used in Whitworth's famous sniper burglarize: 45-caliber, 70-grains of blackpowder, and 500-grain circular nosed bullet. Springfield Armory even copied Whitworth's twist rate.

posing with the marlin 1895 cb
Posing with the Marlin 1895 CB: I tested this rifle with various factory loads and several of my favorite handloads. My handload using the Lyman 405-grain Flat Nose at 1300 fps put ten bullets through i ragged hole at 100 yards, with me using the factory fe sights. My friend, Mike Kelso, now owns this rifle and uses it, very successfully, both for Cowboy Action shooting and elk hunting. He assures me that it is not for sale!

45-lxx Armed forces Testing

The 45-lxx-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle rifle chambering and cartridge combination has e'er had. They fired literally tons of bullets downward range, including penetration testing at 1700 yards. Cypher about the final standardized pattern of the 45-70-500 Regime cartridge or rifle was left to chance. For example, elevation changes of the Buffington rear sight automatically business relationship for bullet drift.

In my youth, folks still talked nigh the boxing of the Little Bighorn with some fervor. It was claimed that one reason that Custer's men could not hold the Indians off was that as the Trapdoor Springfields got hot (takes only a few shots with blackpowder loads). Equally the guns heated, the cases started sticking in the chamber and extraction became more difficult later each shot. Somewhen, most of the guns were rendered useless (other than as clubs) when the extractors tore through the example rims, leaving the fired case stuck in the chamber. Immediately subsequently that, and for generations thereafter, folks blamed this on poor extractor pattern. The truth is, the trouble was the balloon-head cases, which had relatively weak rims anyway, combined with military fastidiousness, which required that the soldiers routinely use wool to polish the verdigris (pronounced: Vid-eh-Gree) off the brass cases (verdigris is the light-green corrosion of brass that occurs when information technology is stored in leather). As a event, Custer'southward men went into battle with bear ammunition in which the rims were dangerously thinned by repeated, excessive cleaning.

45-70 Government War machine and Sporting-Load Variations

Subsequent to adoption of the 45-70 by the armed services, numerous culling loadings occurred. I touched upon some of those in the viiith and ixthursday Editions of Cartridges of the Earth. Mostly, within the noncombatant market, these included loadings with the bullet seated differently (to alter overall length) using a dissimilar propellant charge, with bullets of different weights or nose profiles and designs, and (later) utilize of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-seventy-500, rifle loading, both the conventional circular nose and a bullet with an explosive accuse in the nose (for use in the Gatling Gun). Chronicling every war machine loading variation of this cartridge is far beyond the intended scope of this commodity.

Through it all, the original example design held. While the case was improved as the military arsenals switched from internally primed folded-rim (airship-head) cases to externally primed folded-rim cases, then to semi-balloon-head cases, and possibly eventually to modern externally primed solid-head cases, external case rim and trunk dimensions never varied. (I practice not know when solid-head cases offset occurred but I believe that was long after the military officially retired the 45-lxx.) I have samples of both internally- and externally-primed 45-70 cases manufactured in the late 1870s and early 1880s. These fit a modern 45-70 shellholder perfectly. Excepting the contumely embrittlement resulting from the utilise of fulminate of mercury every bit the energetic component of the primer, I could successfully reload these cases with modernistic dies and fire the resulting loads in a modern gun.

While the modern (solid-caput) cases have less capacity, those also are much stronger and will tolerate loads generating much higher pressure. With the high-quality cartridge contumely that Starline and other manufacturers now produce, these cases will last a careful handloader through many loading and firing cycles. With neck annealing, case life can be virtually unlimited.

I knew a blackpowder silhouette competitor who used the same cases for more than 30 years. He calculated that he had used his select match cases more than than 100 times without any maintenance or losses. Because of the moderate pressure level of such loads, case sizing is non necessary. Most who compete in that game merely decap the case, make clean it, dry it, seat a primer, charge it, and slip a bullet into the case mouth. Such loads part very similarly to modern benchrest loads. When the shooter closes the action on a chambered round, the breechblock drives the case forward, pushing the bullet into the rifling, slightly, while seating it to the final depth. This occurs similarly for each shot. While such loads are not mechanically robust enough for typical hunting employ, these work just fine for target shooting.

Modern 45-70 Loads

Various companies take recently or are at present offering loads that cover the 45-70 gamut, from blackpowder to smokeless blackpowder equivalent, to higher-pressure loads for the Marlin and other mod guns.

Currently, mill loads offered by the big three US manufacturers are limited to 300-grain jacketed bullets launched at about 1750-fps. Several aftermarket manufacturers offering loads ranging from original blackpowder duplication to serious medicine for any game animal on the planet. These include Cor-Bon, Buffalo Bore, and Garrett. These manufacturers often prefer to use Starline cases.

45-70 Bullets
A few of the 45-70 loads and bullets from my archive, left-to right:

  • Modern 300-grain HP manufactory load; rear, Sierra 300-grain JHP;
  • Smalley and McPherson designed monolithic brass 362-grain trans-sonic bullet and load;
  • 405-grain Remington manufactory load; rear, this bullet;
  • 405-grain Remington loaded at 2.73" overall length for use in modernistic Marlin 1895s, modified by me to handle longer cartridges;
  • Lyman 405-grain cast bullet in semi-balloon-caput case; rear, case modern 405-grain cast bullet;
  • Lyman 405-grain cast bullet in solid-head case;
  • 350-grain Speer Hot-Cor loaded at 2.73" overall length for use in modified mod Marlin 1895s; rear, this bullet
  • 540-grain Garrett load; rear, this bullet.

The 362-grain trans-sonic bullet brings the 45-70 fully into the modern era with a pointed nose pattern and which launches at about 2000 fps, even so remains stable throughout ballistic flying.

factory 45-70 ammunition 100-yard group
While my all-time handloads will more often than not shoot better, factory 45-70 ammunition is not too bad. My friend, Dave Livingston, fired this sub-3/4-inch, 100-yard group, using a manufacturing plant-stock 1895 Marlin and the factory iron sights.

My Experiences with the 45-70

My first work with the 45-70 involved loading blackpowder rounds in semi-balloon-head cases, with bullets cast of bike weights, using the Lyman 457125 mould. This bullet and these loads duplicated the original 45-70-500 loads. Co-ordinate to my rudimentary chronograph, velocity from an original Trapdoor Springfield was 1210 fps. Although recoil, particularly when firing from the decumbent position was cruel, accuracy was impressive.

My next 45-lxx experimentation was with a very early 1886 Winchester that PO Ackley had rebored and rechambered from 40-82 WCF to 45-70, and then the tardily owner could actually use the gun. In those days, no one even considered the possibility that such a gun (in unaltered condition) might some day be a valuable collector'south item. The thought that whatever manufacturer would e'er once more brand cases that anyone could utilise to make forty-82 ammunition was equally inconceivable.

The owner of that Winchester wanted a serious load. He settled upon 51 grains of IMR 3031 backside the Lyman 457125 bullet, seated to take reward of the total length of the action in that gun (virtually 2.75-inches). That load generated right at 1800 fps and very shut to 33,000-psi meridian chamber pressure level, which significantly exceeds the 28,000-psi top pressure level of the original 45-70-500 blackpowder load. Recoil with the original burglarize-style buttplate was brutal but that gun and load combination produced MOA accuracy, which I proved on paper. I do not recommend this load combination for use in original 1886 guns and certainly not for a blackpowder gun.

Marlin bench technique
In 1991, I was still learning merely how sensitive the Marlin is to bench technique. This predominantly vertical stringing indicates shooter error in not getting the hold the same for each shot.

Next, while in college, I discovered an incredibly smooth, slightly used Marlin 1895, at a price that I simply could not resist ($125). As the saying goes, the rest is history. I tested that gun with bullets cast from the Lyman 457193 mould, which is listed at 405-grains and duplicates the original Cavalry-load bullet, and various jacketed bullets (including every 300 offered), the Speer 350-grain Hot-Cor and 400-grain, and the Remington 405.

For loads at modern pressures, I have tested R1-7, H322 and IMR 4895 simply the list of propellants that will give proficient results with the 45-70 is very long. Nigh folks soon come to believe that whatever propellant they happened to begin testing with is the best propellant for 45-70 loads. What this proves to me is that many smokeless propellants give splendid results in the 45-70. Generally, whatsoever extruded number between 4227 and 4320 in burn rate and whatever ball-type number between 1680 and H380 volition give reasonably good results.

Blown Rifle
This is what tin happen when one uses a too-mild primer. Here, the combination of a light accuse with a hard-to-ignite propellant, a mild primer, and shooting on a cold day all contributed. Regardless of what you might recollect, conversion of this custom burglarize into these useless pieces resulted from a detonation with a charge that normally would take generated relatively mild pressure.

I compared results with various primers. Contrary to what many loading manuals suggest, for full-power loads in a gun with pocket-size striker energy (about non-bolt-action guns), the CCI-300 is ideal for loads using extruded propellants and the CCI-350 is ideal for loads using ball-type propellants. For loads with A5744, the Remington 2½ is platonic. Notwithstanding, in all loads, primer choice can exist tricky, and employ of the wrong primer can pb to a catastrophe.

Through the years, I fired thousands of rounds through my original Marlin 45-70, both at paper and while plinking at long-range targets. Excepting my varminting guns and my one-time 22 rimfire Stevens pump, I have never fired, and never volition burn down, as many rounds through any other rifle. Through all that shooting, I learned considerably well-nigh what the 45-70 can exercise.

45-70 Speer Target
While this load has all the accurateness one could e'er want for hunting with a 45-lxx, this Speer bullet is the worst possible choice. Speer designed it to give skillful expansion when fired at blackpowder velocity from the Trapdoor Springfield, a gun from which no ane should ever burn down whatsoever jacketed bullet (the bore steel is and then soft that such bullets cause rapid erosion). Literally, the 400-grain Speer JFN is the ideal hunting bullet for use in a gun in which it should never be used. The logic backside this bullet escapes me entirely.

Historical and Modern Applications for the 45-70

In the era of its original evolution, the Usa Military was facing Indians who used a tactic of firing arrows at a high bending so they would come down nearly vertically behind any shut-range barricade where soldiers might be hiding. With skilled archers and enough of arrows, that was an effective technique.

My retentivity on this is dim but I exercise think either reading or being told by a mentor that the US Armed services wanted a gun and load with the same capability. Therefore, this was a consideration in development of the 45-70. I exercise not know whether or not this was true or if this technique was e'er used with any success in any battle.

I do know that the original blackpowder 45-lxx-500 loading could evangelize mortal energy to targets beyond 1700 yards (375 foot-pounds at ane mile, more than than a 45 Automatic generates at the cage). At maximum horizontal range for level burn (2179 yards at sea level with standard atmospheric weather condition), that bullet arrives with most 189 foot-pounds of energy, which is certainly sufficient to generate lethal damage.

All the way to maximum horizontal distance, that bullet was still accurate. The published merits was that the 500-grain round nose would penetrate 17-inches of loose sand at 1700 yards, merely until I personally test that I will remain skeptical. Nevertheless, the 45-seventy-500 remains the about effective long-range military battle rifle cartridge e'er adopted by the US considering the bullet always remains stable throughout its ballistic flight (no standard bullet fired from any more modern military cartridge will do and then). Because of this, the 500-grain circular nose shoots accurately to almost twice as far as any bullet does in any other U.s.a. battle cartridge.

Brian Pierce used a heavy hard-cast bullet in this Marlin 45-lxx to cleanly dispatch non one, but two Greatcoat buffalo with ane shot. The first was a total-grown cow; the second was a yearling that happened to be continuing direct behind the cow. I will non detail that story here but I will note that it happened not because Pierce was devil-may-care but considering his guide simply refused to believe that any lever-action cartridge and load could possibly launch a bullet that would fully penetrate whatever Cape Buffalo. The guide insisted that he shoot. So, Pierce shot. The guide had to pay for the second kill.

Many blackpowder target shooters use rifles chambered in 45-70 for blackpowder silhouette and other games where the power, accuracy, and ease of finding an accurate load and of loading such ammunition are all of import. Many shooters who compete in the Friends of Billy Dixon match at our range near Hotchkiss Colorado shoot the 45-70, with proficient results.

Shooting the Rolling Block
Friends of Billy Dixon Range
, shooting line: The late Past Smalley, shooting the Rolling Block action that he barreled, stocked, and otherwise modified for utilize with the 45-lxx at the Friends of Billy Dixon Range. Using this burglarize and his custom 45-lxx handload and a bullet that he and I designed, Smalley fired four shots that went within an 18-inch loftier past 42-inch wide rectangle, at 1538 yards. At that altitude, tiny current of air changes volition motion the bullet many feet. That accuracy pales when compared to the 10-shot 45-70 group fired by a Credemore competitor in 1886. He put all ten bullets inside an 8.half-dozen-inch circumvolve, at 1000 yards.

Long Shot
Smalley shooting his 45-seventy during the Friends of Baton Dixon event, with Andy Tuttle observing: Superimposed blood-red arrow points at the official FoBD target, encounter preceding pic. Other steel targets include various animal silhouettes and diamond and circular gongs scaled to present precise visual sizes in terms of MOA distended.

Winning Shot
Smalley pointing to his winning, first-shot-during-contest, hitting. First time anyone ever hitting 1 of the suspension hangers.

Because the 45-70 chambering was never intended for use with paper-patched bullets, sleeping room design does not suffer the limitations that chambers for many other surviving cartridges of the same era practice (refer to my treatise on the 38-55 WCF). Therefore, cases and chambers matching the original design work well with loads using modern swaged, jacketed, and bandage bullets.

The unexpected change in SAAMI maximum cartridge length of the 45-70 that I believe occurred when manufacturers dropped the 500-grain loading later on the finish of Earth State of war Two (when US makers resumed production of ammunition for the civilian market), facilitated adoption of the 45-seventy to the Marlin 336 activeness. (This was the bones design of 1893 that Marlin congenital for the 32-forty and 38-55, which was the Marlin activity designed for cartridges of nearly 2½-inch length.)

In 1972, Marlin took reward of this possibility with the introduction of what it chosen the 1895 (in laurels of the original Model of 1895, which was the Marlin activeness designed for cartridges of nigh 2¾ inches.) Introduction of the new Marlin 1895, more all other factors combined, is responsible for the electric current popularity of the 45-70.

Comparisons to Similar Cartridges

Despite the fact that the 45-70 is very nearly the perfect antithesis of the modern burglarize cartridge, information technology does so many things and then well that information technology will persist as a popular and useful chambering for as long as folks keep shooting cartridge guns. The 38-55 is far more pleasant to shoot but does not have the authority that the 45-seventy has. When loaded with blackpowder, the 50 WCF is a far more effective hunting cartridge than the 45-seventy is, simply the disadvantages of the 50 WCF far outweigh that single advantage. When loaded to standard overall cartridge length using blackpowder, the 45-90 has a pregnant ballistic edge for long-range target shooting, only if one modifies the 45-70 chamber to allow use of cartridges with the bullet seated shallower, that difference almost disappears. And, when compared to the twoscore-65 and all other cartridges of the same class, the 45-70 has the overall border.

While some might argue that the military origin of this chambering has much to do with its continued popularity, I believe that it is fair to suggest that beyond the beginning century any such history can no longer explain the connected popularity of any cartridge. In that regard, I will make the following observation; the 30-06 Springfield no longer holds sway as one of the nearly popular chamberings for any application. While it is nonetheless a very expert cartridge, in the past 30 years or so while the 45-lxx gained in popularity, the 30-06 lost considerable ground to cartridges of more-mod pattern.

Conclusions: To merely suggest that the 45-70 is here to stay would be akin to damning it with faint praise. The 45-70 is not only here to stay but while many chamberings that were popular in my youth have disappeared and others are fading away equally I write this treatise the 45-70 continues to proceeds in popularity. I meet no end to that trend.

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About the Author: M. L. (Mic) McPherson

Mic McPherson'southward passionate pursuit of answering the question: "Does an ideal case design exist?" in part led him to be an accomplished and respected author and a thought leader in the firearm, shooting, and handloading communities.

McPherson has done ballistic testing in many laboratories, including: Oehler, Norma, Sierra, Speer, Western, Authentic, Hodgdon, and Hornady. He attended the prestigious Oehler Research Pressure Testing Seminar where he demonstrated the surprising degree to which charge position matters.

McPherson is co-holder of four patents on optimized cartridge design. These parametric patents cover the physics behind what represents optimum cartridge design, as measured by ballistic efficiency. These also accost the theory and mathematical constructs needed to sympathize how to pattern an optimum cartridge and how to measure the efficiency of such a cartridge.

McPherson is the writer of Accurizing the Mill Rifle, a all-time-selling guide to gunsmithing; Metal Cartridge Handloading, the modern bible on handloading; Zigzag Canyon, Book-of-the-year for the Zane Grey Society; Cartridges of the Earth, 8th and ninth Editions, and diverse other books. He has had hundreds of manufactures published in various magazines, including: Precision Shooting, The Accurate Rifle, Guns, American Rifleman, Very Loftier Power, and Varmint Hunter.

McPherson served as Editor of Reloading for Shotgunners, fourth Edition, and Handloader'south Digest. He has likewise been a contributing author for Handloader'due south Digest, Gun Digest, and other gun-industry publications.

Disclaimer: This article was written to provide historical perspective on the 45-70 instance, none of the handloads that I mention herein, either directly or indirectly, represent a handloading recommendation to anyone for any purpose. I brand no claim as to the safe of any load discussed in this piece for whatsoever application. These are loads used by others and myself, in our guns, created with our components and our loading tools. Any specific data that I discuss or reference (either straight or indirectly) in this article might or might not be rubber in any particular gun: Explicitly, about of these loads would be dangerous for utilize in many older and even some newer 45-70 chambered guns. If you intend to handload for your 45-70, employ only information presented in a modern loading manual, and follow all instructions associated with that data, as to specific components, loading details, and load development. For original military and related civilian rifles chambered in 45-seventy that are known to exist metallurgically and mechanically sound, the only assuredly safe loads combine a full charge of FFg blackpowder and a cast or swaged-lead bullet (jacketed bullets will erode the bore very rapidly). Many of these original guns are in questionable condition and the all-time approach, could well be to assign such a gun to the wall-hanger category: Interesting to await at and handle but all-time left unfired.

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